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January 06, 2010

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Woody

I'm not sure that the British (or Dutch) worker/taxpayer is very happy to pick up the bill for the mismanagement of Icelandic banks by the Icelandic government. So I doubt whether they will see what Ogmundur is doing in a positive light. At PSI you should be representing the interests of all your members not just a few.

Jorge Mancillas

Dear Woody,

Thanks for your very welcome comment.

At PSI were bound by one overriding perspective: we as workers have interests in common that cut across borders.

One thing we share in common is the attempt by governments --and those who have used a myriad of deceptive methods to accumulate enormous amounts of wealth at our expense-- to make us, workers, pay for the consequences of their policies.

I fail to see any evidence that British or Dutch workers are going to get any benefit from the fleecing of Icelanders over the next few years. Rather, it is the same bankers, "captains of industry" and their politicians who will, once more, acrue the benefits, while British, Dutch and Icelandic workers foot the bill.

Whoever mismanaged the Icelandic banks, (whether it was the bankers themselves, or as you claim, the government), it certainly was not the average Icelander, who is now being asked to come up with the money that others have walked away with. Wealth does not vanish in thin air.

We in the public sector should be particularly opposed to those policies which would result in the slashing of the public sector in Iceland. And if anyone thinks that any penny taken from Iceland will be used to strengthen public services in the UK or Holland, he or she should follow the news more closely.

So, we believe we are representing the interests of all our members, which do not include bankers, when we support the efforts or our colleagues in Iceland, and any effort to defend the livelihood of all workers, anywhere in the world.

I believe that the best approach is for UK and Dutch workers to adopt the same stance as the Icelanders and refuse to pay the costs of the crisis, fight to get the value that was deducted from our pensions during the financial crisis, and stop any effort at reducing our real incomes and cutting the public services we all need. As I said, wealth does not vanish in thin air. It has only changed hands. And you will not find it under the mattresses of Icelandic workers or workers anywhere.

We should resist being pushed into a nationalist trap.

Thank you for your comment and the opportunity to clarify what, in these times of frustration and confusing information, is probably a concern others share with you.

Please keep offering us your input. It is only through open exchanges that we can all learn from each other's perspective. Most importantly, it is the only way we can forge a common view around which we can work together to build a stronger global union movement.

Woody

Despite all your words you don't get the point - and you clearly don't live in the real world!

The British government (ie the British worker/taxpayer) has paid out over £3 billion to people who had savings with Icelandic banks - that is money that could have been used to invest in public services.If the money is not returned then British workers will either have to pay increased taxes, see their services cut or, of course, lose their jobs. The Icelandic government which is responsible for setting the rules by which Icelandic banks operate - and for overseeing their activities - is answerable to the Icelandic people, so it must be with them that the bucks stop. As you say wealth doesn't just vanish into thin air so it is up to the Icelandic government/people to pursue the negligent bankers in order to retrieve their losses.

This has nothing to do with nationalism and everything to do with equity (not forgetting that on a GDP/capita basis Iceland is a far richer country than Britain). The British public purse has lost £3 billion as a consequence of Iceland's failures - if it is not the Icelandic government that is going to make up that loss then who is?

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